If they are advertising it as a veritable textbook, 2 requires that the book be published with the approbation of competent ecclesiastical authority. The video is a response to the soontobereleased book by john salza and robert siscoe, true or false pope. Salza and siscoe describe the positions of cajetan, bellarmine, suarez, and john of st. Siscoe personally believes his popes are heretics because they profess heresies.
Peter over the other apostles and instituted in him both a perpetual principle of unity and a visible foundation dr. Jan 14, 2016 the video is a response to the soontobereleased book by john salza and robert siscoe, true or false pope. While the number of sedevacantists is relatively small. Sedevacantism is the position held by some people who identify as catholic that the present. In that section, they have posted their first article. Sedevacantism is the position held by a minority of traditionalist catholics who claim that the papal see has been vacant since either the death of pope pius xii in 1958 or pope john xxiii in 1963. Dec 07, 2016 tradcatknight radio, defection from the faith. A tiny number of these people claim the vacancy actually goes back to the death of pope pius x in 1914, among other littleknown positions. Veri catholici, an international association of catholics dedicated to opposing the errors promoted by cardinal kasper, is calling on all catholics in the world to join us in rome to condemn the document amoris laetitia and its many errors, and to demand from the pope and sacred hierarchy that the document be withdrawn and its errors condemned, formally and canonically. Harrison is on this occasion exactly right, and salza is all at sea. Refutando al sedevacantismo y a otros errores modernos. Remnant tv and robert siscoe refuted and exposed on sedevacantism.
The announcement of the forthcoming publication of this. Refuting sedevacantism and other modern errors, stas editions, 2015, p. This doctrine is expounded at length in chapter 12 of the antisedevacantist book, true or false pope. Refuting sedevacantism and other modern errors by john salza 20150802. In order that the whole host of the faithful may remain in unity of faith and communion, he christ placed st. A refutation of sedevacantism and other modern errors, john salza and robert siscoe are still busy wasting everybodys time. Anthony cekada and his disciple mario derksen who runs the sedevacantist website novusordowatch. Quoting directly from todays leading sedevacantist apologists, salza and siscoe reveal how sedevacantists have distorted the teachings of. This just in from, in this section, we will respond to sedevacantists attempted refutations of our book and articles, including those published by fr. We will consider the question in light of distinctions that are often overlooked, but which are critical when considering this question. Refuting sedevacantism and other modern errors by john salza. Kramers destruction of salza and siscoes arguments and called it a day. True or false pope refuting sedevacantism and other modern.
Diabolically disoriented michael matt reveals his true. This book provides an outstanding treatment of numerous modern errors, each of which are of great importance for us to comprehend at this time of crisis in the church. Weve both written articles against the errors of sedevacantism over the years, but, due to the extent and depth of the errors within the movement, a more thorough treatment was necessary. It contains many points that have not been covered before on a topic thats central to. The links on this page are automatically updated as new content is added pertaining to any of these categories. Sedevacantism is the theological position of those traditional catholics who most certainly believe in the papacy, papal infallibility and the primacy of the roman pontiff, and yet do not recognize pope francis edit. That is why archbishop lefebvre never adopted this position, and even forbade the priests of the society of st. In addition to defending the book, this section will also include articles exposing the errors of sedevacantism as well as. Siscoe and salza have been holding out this book as a veritable textbook on antisedevacantism. Despite what i was lead to believe, the nature of mind was still one of the most divisive, unsolved, mysteries of contemporary philosophy. Pius x, the authors have opened a sedevacantist watch section on their web site. Sedevacantism is the position, held by a small group of traditionalist catholics, that the person in the papal see right now is not truly pope and that, for lack of a good pope, the see has been empty since the death of pope pius xii in 1958.
The book has a laudatory foreword by bishop bernard fellay, then superior general of the sspx, who stated, we thus pray that true or false pope. Sedevacantism is the position, held by some catholics, that the present occupier of the holy see is not truly pope due to the mainstream churchs espousal of what they see as the heresy of modernism and that, for lack of a valid pope, the see has been vacant since the death of pope pius xii in 1958 the term sedevacantism is derived from the latin phrase sede. Every cardinal, bishop, priest, religious, and layman in the world gave adherence to an antipope, until someone came along and spotted that the emperor was wearing no clothes. After all the books and debates though, it became clear that all of the various attempts by philosophers and neuroscientists to reduce the human mind to mere matter i. Herberts outlandish proverbs as weve written on numerous occasions, the readers, as a group, dont embrace any one of the current explanations for the crisis in the papacy. There was much more to this statement, including some very troubling ecclesiology, but here was the crux of the matter francis essentially states that lutherans and catholics similar baptism provides a sufficient level of communion for the two to receive the eucharist together, provided that one has talked to the lord in good conscience and is comfortable to go forward i. What is really excellent about this exchange is that it exposes the intellectual and moral methods and standards applied by these writers in putting their book together. Perhaps we could hold a book discussion of it here.
It will also serve to explain and defend the teachings of the catholic faith which are often misunderstood by noncatholics. The gates of hell and the gates of the church the best. Do you know john salza and his strong refutations against. Refuting sedevacantism and other modern errors, by john salza and robert siscoe, 700 pages true or false pope.
In this 700 page tome, john salza and robert siscoe present material from popes, ecumenical councils and doctors of the church that you will never find on a sedevacantist website. The dimonds, the devil, and the willfully duped page 1 crisis in the church catholic info. Is the latin vulgate a substantially faithful translation of the original books of the bible. Like the sspx priest, your friend also probably told you to read the salzasiscoe book, which is like ambien in print. On the errors of john salza, robert siscoe, and the book true or false pope. Sedevacantism is the position, held by a minority of traditionalist catholics, that the alleged present occupant of the holy see is not truly pope due to the mainstream churchs espousal of the heresy of modernism and that, for lack of a valid pope, the see has been vacant since the death of pope pius xii in 1958 the term sedevacantism is derived from the latin phrase sede vacante, which. In this 700 page tome, john salza and robert siscoe present material from popes, ecumenical councils. The first excerpt starts off with gerry matatics position on female deacons and the remainder of the excerpts are salzas and siscoes. Robert bellarmine better than the academically qualified and ecclesiastically approved authorities on canon law jus canonicum by the rev f x wernz s. John salza, attorney and catholic apologist, who coauthored, with mr. He put forward sedevacantist ideas in his books the new montinian church. What are we to think of the sedevacantist position. Refuting sedevacantism and other modern errors by john salza 20150802 john salza.
As he only had two chairs, the archbishop sat on his bed and father barbara sat opposite him. Gregory ix promulgated an evil universal disciplinary law in 1234, but remained a true pope. Nov 18, 2014 another siscoe article on sedevacantism home forum all things catholic another siscoe article on sedevacantism this topic contains 2 replies, has 2 voices, and was last updated by cyprian 5 years, 4 months ago. Sedevacantism is a theory that has not been proven speculatively, and that it is imprudent to hold practically an imprudence that can have very serious consequences.
He and john salza have published true or false pope refuting sedevacantism and other modern errors in an attempt to show how this profane falsehood can be true. Why vatican iis clash with sedevacantism supports eastern orthodoxy, by john c. This means that the great tragedy of the churchs decapitation was kept a secret for ten years. Again, i was also pretty sure that the arguments would be fairly easy to refute because of the mindset of nonsedevacantist trads to propose that there was a pope but he could be ignored. Recently, father anthony cekada released a video entitled why traditionalists fear sedevacantism. Refuting sedevacantism and other modern errors by john salza and robert siscoe, there is a separate group of links relating just to that. The room was so small that father barthe had to place his chair behind the archbishop. The book proceeds very systematically and logically, with each chapter building on the previous material. Look on it as an opportunity to get him thinking about some of the unquestioned givens the society has handed him about evil, schismatic, proud sedevacantism. Quid est veritas has been established to explain and defend the catholic faith during what is surely the greatest crisis the church has ever experienced. Ahead of the official release of the new, 700page book arguing against sedevacantism, true or false pope.
Sedevacantists assert that, while the previous six popes have all been antipopes, there are no valid bishops left in the world, and the whole sensus fidelium has fallen into heresy, yet somehow the. The very first of suarezs books was not published until 1590. John salzas errors on sedevacantism part 4 youtube. Anthony cekada a traditionalist miscellany by the rev. Sedevacantists correctly maintain that divine law expels a formal heretic from the church without further declaration.
In this 700 page tome, john salza and robert siscoe present material from popes, ecumenical councils and doctors of the church that. Due to the crisis in the church and the papal scandals that have become so commonplace, sedevacantism is a topic on the mind of many people, but to date there has been no complete refutation of its errors. Feb 20, 2020 true or false pope on that alleged irrational response quite simply we didnt hear about it at all until today from siscoe and salza doing some research online we conclude that the book in question is probably the sedevacantist delusion why vatican iis clash with sedevacantism supports eastern orthodoxy by john pontrello released in. Mar 08, 2017 siscoe, celestine and sedevacantism antisedevacantist controversialist and sspx apologist robert siscoe thinks he has found a killer argument against the sedevacantist position. In addition to defending the book, this section will also include articles. The method to obtain this publication the sedevacantist delusion. John salzas arguments against sedevacantism crushed. True or false pope on that alleged irrational response quite simply we didnt hear about it at all until today from siscoe and salza doing some research online we conclude that the book in question is probably the sedevacantist delusion why vatican iis clash with sedevacantism supports eastern orthodoxy by john pontrello released in. Bellarmine forums view topic article by john salza. We resist you to your face pdf, traditional mass, p. Salzasiscoe and their ilk say that catholics must bow down in submissive obedience to the apocalyptic abomination where the chair of peter was established that we must remain in communion with this throne of abominable impiety.
There were many pious images, a pile of pocket books, two chairs and five cats that appeared to be everywhere. Mar 05, 2018 the book true or false pope by robert siscoe and john salza was hot off the press, and i am pretty sure i was one of the first to place an order. A thorough refutation of sedevacantism has been sorely needed. However, and this may be why salza and siscoe refuse to acknowledge what louie has, louies argument can be made against him for not taking the same position against the popes prior to francis. Sedevacantism is the position, held by some catholics, that the present occupier of the holy see is not truly pope due to the mainstream churchs espousal of what they see as the heresy of modernism and that, for lack of a valid pope, the see has been vacant since the death of pope pius xii in 1958. A reader who wishes to remain anonymous kindly shared these pages with call me jorge. Graces will flow when judgments stop the coming home network. The book provides a good overview of the theological debates concerning heretical popes and is worth reading and even purchasing. We receive many inquiries into sedevacantist authors, websites and videos. The dogmatic sedevacantist position is one that may appear as a legitimate solution to this crisis in the church the worst in her history, it would seem, but only to those who have not yet fully explored its ramifications or do not know her teaching well enough.
Sedevacantism and the sedevacantist thesis proved by antipope. It begins with a thorough treatment of the nature of the church, of its marks and attributes, followed by an explanation of the internal and external. Refuting sedevacantism and other modern errors by john salza 20150504 john salza. In point of fact, there are at least several oneshot kills of th. Thomas on the situation of a heretical pope and conclude that john of st. Interestingly, rather than demonstrating that traditionalists fear sedevacantism, father cekadas remarks suggest that he fears traditionalists critiques of sedevacantism. The pre1955 altar missal is being reprinted at last. They claim sedevacantists wrongly treat certain papal statements of the past as if they were ex cathedra declarations. True or false pope refuting sedevacantism and other. Refuting sedevacantism and other modern errors by john salza 20150802 paperback january 1, 1731 by john salza. Sedevacantism is the position, held by some traditionalist catholics, that the present occupier of the holy see is not truly pope due to the mainstream churchs espousal of the heresy of modernism and that, for lack of a valid pope, the see has been vacant since the death of pope pius xii in 1958 the term sedevacantism is derived from the latin phrase sede vacante, which literally means. Refuting sedevacantism and other modern errors, by john salza and robert siscoe with a forward by bernard fellay. Sedevacantism the vacancy of the papal throne since the death of pope pius xii the chair of st. Theological and canonical implications by pope francis in.
Ludwig ott, fundamentals of catholic dogma tan books, 1974, p. Siscoes book will surely afford much clarity to the reader. A little catechism on sedevacantism society of saint pius x. Supports eastern orthodoxy ever since the second vatican council 19621965 catholics have remained divided. Covering a vast territory with unique clarity, it surpasses every work of its kind and is arguably one of the most important books written on the postconciliar crisis.
In this three part series, we will consider the question of loss of papal office due to manifest heresy. Sedevacantism is the position, held by some catholics, that the present occupier of the holy see is not truly pope due to the mainstream churchs espousal of what they see as the heresy of modernism and that, for lack of a valid pope, the see has been vacant since the death of pope pius xii in 1958 the term sedevacantism is derived from the latin phrase sede vacante, which means with the. A refutation of sedevacantism and other modern errors by john salza and robert siscoe. Sedevacantism and the alleged loss of the four marks a pivotal point in the sedevacantist debate is the question of the four marks of the church. A quick reply, without proofs, to john salzas comments on sedevacantism. In the first four days of 2016, my video why do traditionalists fear sedevacantism. It is the position held by traditional catholics who claim that the papal seat, the holy see, has been vacant since the death of pope pius xii in 1958. On this page we present a slew of links to articles, blog posts, books, audios, and videos dealing with the subject matter of the papacy, sedevacantism, the false theological position known as recognizebutresist. Archbishop lefebvre explicitly rejected pantraditionalism and the real sister lucy never wrote about diabolical disorientation. You might not go for some places and invest the moment to only discover guide the. Sedevacantists believe that paul vi 19631978, john paul i 1978, john paul ii 19782005 and benedict xvi since 2005 have been neither true catholics nor true popes, by virtue of. Pistrinas editorial policy is aliquid pravism something is gravely wrong with rome, and were arminarm with any traditional catholic, whether sede or rnrer. Diabolically disoriented michael matt reveals his true colors as a pied piper leading traditionalists i. Salza, the errors of sedevacantism and ecclesiastical law, the remnant.
Steven speray responds to robert siscoe and the remnant i sent my rebuttal to the remnant, but they havent returned my two emails in over a week. Church militant sedevacantism debunked in a nutshell. The pluralism and the diversity of religions are willed by god the document on human fraternity signed by pope francis during his apostolic journey to the united arab emirates february 35, 2019 contains statements that are directly contrary to the catholic faith. What they all have in common is a belief that the current pope, and usually several predecessors, arewere antipopes. Steven speray responds to robert siscoe and the remnant. This blog will seek to shine the light of doctrinal truth on the post conciliar haze of ambiguity and confusion. Sedevacantism is about a decade newer than vatican ii. Resisting the pope, sedevacantism and frankenchurch 2005 by rev. Therefore, im publishing it now to prove the veracity of sedevacantism and the errors of those traditionalists who are in union with modernist rome. The following scans are taken from the book true or false pope. Resisting the pope, sedevacantism and frankenchurch.
The year of our lord 2016 promises to be loaded with fireworks. We responded to this false allegation by quoting directly from the new rite itself, demonstrating that there are, in fact, multiple references to a sacrificing priesthood. Another siscoe article on sedevacantism aka catholic. Pdf is the chair of peter vacant courtney krier academia.
Jun 22, 2016 posts about sedevacantism written by editor. Please remember to say 3 hail marys for the priests. Thomas on the situation of a heretical pope and conclude that john of. For the full article completely refuting john salzas recent article against sedevacantism, see the description of part 1. Mar 27, 2015 sedevacantism comes from the latin sede vacante, which means seat vacant. Interview with john salza and robert siscoe about their new book, true or false pope. Over the past twenty years or so, catholics who criticize the postvatican ii reform of the mass have become increasingly aware that the new rite did not appear out of nowhere, and that quite few of its features appeared as trial balloons in the liturgical changes promulgated by pius xii and john xxiii during the. When it first appeared, i thought it would merit a series of videos that would allow me to.
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